25 Replies to “Caribou Ranch”

  1. Love this story. Amazing how music people can meet or be in the same studio etc and record different music. Or copy each other lol.
    Sad they didn’t put more effort into the jacket for the album.
    If all the people involved in the process would care about the music as much as the artists do it could be a better outcome.
    Love all your music

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  2. You may think the album was not cohesive but I think it showed your versatility. I love the album. I saw it as a transition album. It has elements of Breakin’ the Ice and Hearts of Fire. It literally bridges those albums.

    To me the message is what makes it cohesive. Don’t Tell Me You Love Me is convicting, keeps me in line.

    So I love it! Part of the soundtrack to my life. I don’t even mind the album cover. 😉

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  3. Well since I grew up right there in the neighborhood, Estes Park was a frequent stop for me. In fact everything I go back to COLO I take my grandmother there. I still have my hold on tight vinyl record, and a couple others, good stuff.

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      2. Live stuff I saw was breaking the ice stuff. 82′ saw you live in a church in LA don’t remember which, was 1st in the Marine Corp, that whole period is a blur.
        But you guys were there to help me keep my sanity.

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  4. Love hearing about the old days. How many wrecks were you guys in exactly? It seems to be a common theme with all the band’s traveling.
    Lesson learned I guess, right? Experience really is the best teacher. Thanks for the podcast!

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  5. 50k in 1979 wow that’s over 200k in today’s dollars. hopefully the label fronted the money but so often you hear the artist doesn’t make anything until the label expenses are covered. best to have a lawyer and a good contract. reminds me of the 30th anniversary Kansas DVD where Kerry Livgen comments about signing away thei publishing right – ouch!

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    1. we did the same thing.. signed away publishing.. thought that was just copywrite administration. it’s half of the pie. and “Cross Collateralize” means they can put anything on your budget and not pay you anything until all their bills and your budget is paid off!

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  6. Paul Clark saiid his dad advised him to not give away his rights. I believe he said his dad was a lawyer. Think most of thee CCM artists were ripped off. To the point of all the stuff is owned by secular labels to never see the light of day or be rereleased. We were all so young, Jesus was coming any minute. Who needs the rights or income!! I support you when I can.

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    1. thanks for the comments Mike!~ too late to cry over spilt milk . I’m finding the courage to change the things I can! I appreciate your comments every bit as much as anything.. hearing what you are resonating with helps me in the next ones

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    1. wow good to know yer gettin somethin out of it.. I’ve never known quite what to say bout back in the day.. I always remember the worst stuff! LOL but then that’s usually where I learn somethin

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  8. Love hearing all this, the school of hard knocks anyway. Oh the things we would do different in hindsight! Somehow we get through hard times and can laugh about it later.

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  9. My first SCB purchase was “Hold On Tight” when I was 17. I played the cassette over and over until it warbled out of tune and got eaten by the tape player. The fact that it had the Seawind horns on it had been a big selling point for the purchase. That project meant something to me growing up. I’m glad to see it on YouTube now.

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