Starting A Disenfranchise
To avoid disillusion I might have to do something that I didn’t used to do
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To avoid disillusion I might have to do something that I didn’t used to do
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29 Replies to “Starting A Disenfranchise”
Maybe you need to find another church. But if you live in a small town like I do, you don’t have much of a choice. But I live on a large island if I want to drive farther to another church. I don’t need to because I love our rock & roll band & my pastor.
I’m speaking for effect my church plays better music most of the time.. it’s just not mine! LOL I don’t go to church to be comfortable anyway … it’s an act of obediance and contrition enough to know that I don’t know everything. Thanks for being a regular Julie … two more comments and I’ll be able to spell your last name! LOL
Bryan, I am totally shocked your church hasn’t asked you to sing!!!!!!!
I would beg. Maybe they have? And my last name is easy to spell when you know what it means & you separate the letters. It’s French. La means The. Mour means Love, eux means er. I know you are talking tongue in cheek!!! :()
I know you! Now.. thanks for your name meaning.. My name means Tall Dark Warrior! LOL none of which really works! ROFL , and yes I am sarcastic in an entertaining way but I always tell the truth. My church has it’s own agenda. And I mostly wish I could write simple enough for people to sing along with. It will be nice to hear from you going forward.
My Mom and I were just talking about this last night, but I would say something is broken in Churches today and I am not so sure it’s my age or your age as much as it has to do with the Church changing to become more Corporate and Commercialized and in doing so it’s become a reflection of the world in the sense that there is a definite lack of real connection and community missing everyone is siloed, but maybe I am wrong who knows 🙂
OH I’m sure you have a bead on some of it. Robert thanks for commenting.. In my case on Nutshell Sermons I’m not casting stones at anyone in particular.. I know I don’t have all the answers. I am merely tryin to work through my own discomfort! I hope you keep coming back for my two minute dialogs!
where is the screaming guitar solo? I too am feeling old when I fill in at a church on drums. they have an early set with a choir and most of the time I like the choir arrangements as they are more syncopated, upbeat and exciting. the second set is current worship music which I do confess to never listening to on the radio or buy their cds But in all fairness some of them are not bad or at least I worship more playing them(all 6-8 minutes with 3 or 4 stops/build ups). lyrics ain’t what they used to be either. no one tries to be clever or very deep. general statements about God over and over. I’ve been tempted to start a new genre of Christian music OCM – Offensive Christian Music – a label where you can freely sing about people going to he’ll needing a Savior. I guess Steve Taylor might have been the original with his song ” I blew up the clinic real good”
LOL Love OCM might have to use it! thanks for checking in. yes I like two songs that we do at my church .. “all My life You have Been Faithful” and I can’t remember the other one! LOL new worship sounds like you simply googled God and read his bio!
This is awesome! First one of yours that I listen to and I’ve seen you posting it somehow or another and I think maybe you’re on to something. Start a church where the sermons are like 2 to 3 minutes with room for 45 minutes of worship music.
I’ve tried to write ‘worship’ songs it’s just not me! and as soon as you start a church you start becoming an enforcer .. LOL but glad you like this one
Bro, dude…. Yes you do write worship music!!! Worship isn’t only raising our hands to Jesus. (Okay, at least for me, it’s not.) I love belting out, as loud as I can, singing along with you, to Him. And really, any love song can be praise. There’s several Lady Antebellum songs that I song in praise to God. (But yours are still my favorite!)
thanks for the vote of confidence. my dissappointment is that most churches are using ‘corporate worship’ exclusively. And there has been little appreciation for songs that are not simply “God 101” kind of music. I started this podcast because I was no longer getting calls
You have written worship music. One of them is Love You With My Life! Classic and worshipful
you are kind Linda. thanks always for the encouragment. by worship music I speaking mainly of congregational singing that my songs have not fit into very well nor are my lyrics Generically about GOD. I’m open, I’ve tried to write like that but my heart is not it! but then Gods will is what we pray for..
Lol my husband and I went to a harvest crusade a few years ago. Sat in nosebleed seats and complained the music was too loud and we couldn’t understand the words! We’re Dorks! now that’s old! I told him we are old farts now yet I looked around and the young people were singing along and knew all the words! Loved that!
I don’t believe I’ll have many younger people on my podcast. But this may very well be my new approach to, not only ministry to others but a way to keep myself from isolation in MY old age. Means a lot to have known you for longer than Greg Laurie knows most of his ‘staff’ LOL
My poor husband has to listen to me rant about the music almost every Sunday. I typed a much longer response here, but then I had to repent and erase it all. Thanks for saying alot of what I have been ranting about.
LOL thank God for twitter too.. I edit myself regularly or you’d see the crotchety old man I’ve become ROFL
I went to a church some years back. I heard that the choir was going to sing “The Blood Will Never Lose Its Power.” I’ve loved that song for a very long time. So I joined the choir. Went to rehearsals. Suffice to say the choir director (a lovely man) directed us to sing it as if it was coming straight out of a hymnal, uniform cadence, stanza 1, stanze 2, bridge…. I couldn’t stand it. I kept it inside until the 2nd rehearsal and then I raised my hand and said “I grew up with the man who wrote this and sang with him in his daddy’s church’s choir. May I please sing a bit of it as the writer wrote it and sang it?” I did just that. I mean, come on… it’s Black gospel. Nevertheless, come Sunday morning, we sang it as if it had been written by a White Englishman a couple hundred years ago. I quit the choir after that Sunday. I just couldn’t…
LOL.. that sounds about right.. I did concerts with Andrea’ over the years and he told me horror stories of life between two christian genres he was a rare one to cross racial boundaries like he did. Haven’t seen anyone do it since either. I sang at His memorial service .. to a largely Black Gospel audience. they even had mostly a ‘token’ white representation on stage, most of whom appeared via video clip. I have a version of Soon and Very Soon on nutshellsermons that I did at another funeral. you might have to go back in the archives to hear. under “Songs that didn’t make the last record”
Too many of us go to our fellowships to be “the audience”. We just sing along, if at all, and our spirit is detached from the text. We listen to the sermons with our ears, laugh in the right places, but we are not moved or changed by anything that is said. Some people say, “well, I didn’t get anything out of the service.”… my question is: did you give anything? Did you worship, did you focus on Him, and consider the verses read as having a meaning for your life? And did you encourage someone else?
I ask myself these questions first of all! For if I am not here to make a difference, then why? Why the Interventions, the trials and struggles if not to bring Him glory through our being there. Once someone ask me to sing a “SPECIAL”, The Lord’ s Prayer, during service. I answered that I would but only if I could sing it from the balcony at the back. He said, no, that was just showmanship. So I said, “No, I want people to focus on the words and let the music lift them up instead of focusing on me.”
When I go to a meeting I want to focus on Him, and I too, often don’t succeed. My attention is diverted this way or that. That makes me sad…. and that’s on me.
you could do your own nutshell Sermons Ruth! .. are you living in Israel? just wondering
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My husband became disenfranchised with church 16 years ago. He was tired of feeling like he was just a pew-warmer. It was harder for me, being a busy mom- church was my only place for adult conversation! We visited a couple of “home churches”, and talked of starting one ourselves, but just weren’t stable enough. Spent 7 years outside of church. After a move, a friend encouraged me to visit her church. Hubby even gave it a trial run for a year. Kids & I are still there. Bottom line: relationships are messy and challenging. People are messy and challenging. Sometimes we just don’t FEEL like bothering. But I’ve learned about me: I’ve gotta be in fellowship with believers. I NEED encouragement and challenging. And in the seasons I’m (more) stable, I reach out to encourage and challenge others. Christ saved me at the cross, and His body has saved me numerous other times.
I’m prolly like yer Hubbs in that way.. have a hard time stayin.. just to warm the pew.. churches don’t challenge men in a good way. But yer right we gotta be in some form of fellowship nobody goes it alone
Well, hey there my FLF!
Nope. Today’s music just isn’t what it was when you gave us A.C.O.A.L.F.
That album, in large part is the soundtrack of my life.
It’s my “go-to” when I need a spiritual lift. We All Need and Blessed Are The Tears are, for me, so full of the love you have for people and so full of soul, sometimes I just get “lost” as I immerse my spirit in every sound. Every word.
As for church attendance, my attitude is fairly skewed.
Many years ago, the “charter members” of a small Baptist church had voted in a young man as pastor who had grown up on the mission field in Indonesia.
He and his wife were the sweetest people…..
They had 3 kids under the age of 5, and they wanted to start a daycare. These so-called Christian charters didn’t like it, bc their kids were in their teens.
Looooong story short, these people went around to members homes ( I kicked ’em out.) With a petition to oust Pastor Steve. His wife, Connie had a nervous breakdown and in short order, they were gone!!!
I used to babysit Steve and Connie’s kids and i have never gotten past the pain of knowing that, for me, church people cannot be trusted…
The fellowship here on X is very edifying and I seek to be of encouragement to all of my siblings in Christ.
It was great listening to this! Take care of my FLF for me! K? ✝️
Thanks for keeping it real, Bryan!
thanks for sharing.. I feel for yer dismissed friends… I’ve often thought a great ministry was just to go around apologizing to the wounded we hurt in the name of God!
Thank you.
Once upon a time, you forgave me, and, visa versa.
After all:
“Take a lesson from me, ya can’t find love, no, ’til all is forgiven.
Take a lesson from me, ya can’t keep love, ’til all is forgiven…Ain’t no easy way, yeah……”
Hmmm….sound familiar?
✝️
Hi Dee don’t member the visa versa but sure